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  Oh How Far I've Come

  by pale.emperor in

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  so this weekend my girlfriend and i will move into our own place together.

  it turns out that “a cord of three strands is stronger” is bullshit and two people in a relationship are perfectly capable of being happy without outside influence.

  what a journey i’ve had since leaving 3 and a half years ago!

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  Congratulations! And best wishes for a joyous and prosperous new year for you and yours!
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  Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...

  by Fadeaway3pointer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  fader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.

  not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.

  this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.

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  Here's my 2¢ worth. Just something I would consider saying...

  You ask us to respect your right to believe and live as you think best. We do and we will, even though we do not share those beliefs. We ask the same from you. Anything less would be hypocrisy.

  You may remember that the July 2009 Awake! said, "No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family." Did the Governing Body mean what they said, or were they institutionalizing hypocrisy?

  We understand and accept that you do not agree with the way we now see certain things, but that doesn't mean we're not still family. Why can't we set aside this divisive issue, and simply love each other the way we should? We will gladly agree not to criticize the organization or your beliefs, and in return we ask that you acknowledge our right as adults to have our own beliefs. Any discussion of religion can simply be off the table. Would that work for you?

  I don't really think such a reasonable approach will work. I mentioned that Awake! article to my very PIMI sister, and she practically shouted, "THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO US!!! WE HAVE THE TRUTH!!!'

  On another occasion, when she and her husband made clear that they would be shunning me from then on, I told them that no matter how badly they treated me, they would always be welcome in my heart and in my home. Her response? A very accusatory, "You're just trying to be magnanimous!" Sheesh! In the voice of Steve Martin, "Well excuuussse me!"

  Since then, I've made it clear that social coercion and emotional blackmail will not work on me. In fact, they have the opposite effect. Whenever we do have contact, I remind her that my heart and my home remain open to them. No response...

  Anyway, I know how you feel and where you're coming from. Good luck. I hope that one day our loved ones will realize just how hypocritical their position is and what a bad "witness" they are giving when they cruelly shun family whose only crime is leaving the religion.
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  2019--December--4--Leaked--Videos!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  congregation expenses types and approvals.

  issuing donation acknowledgment letters.

  monthly congregation accounts reports--s-30.

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  Thank you so much for posting this and all the other "secret" stuff the Borg tries to hide from the sheeple. You're doing a good work.

  Wishing you and yours a very joyous and prosperous New Year.
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  FlyingHighNow

  by Ex-Witless in

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  2. friends

  hello forum.

  my aunt, flyinghighnow, has passed away.

  i don't know if you remember her, but she was a long time member.

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  So sorry for your loss. I always enjoyed your aunt's posts. We even exchanged a few comments back in the day.

  Rest in peace, Heather.
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  Have you heard of a Jehovah's Witness on federal SSDI disability Pioneering ? How common is this ?

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asking 4 a friend.

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  I would have no problem at all turning in the moochers who cheat the system. Especially if I had proof.

  If any of you know of such cases and have proof but don't want to pull the trigger yourself, PM me. I'll report them myself and let the chips fall where they may. Again, this only applies if you have proof like the video of the leech loading bags of concrete or written evidence that the cheater wanted his checks made out to his daughter.

  Scumbags! I hope they all get what's coming to them.
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  Make Shunning A Hate Crime

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.

  they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.

  i hope they will succeed.

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  I agree that the concept of "hate crime" is merely a construct born of political correctness. A crime is a crime, no worse or no less serious simply because of who the victim is. I would only support an "enhanced" penalty if the victim was a public official (like a political figure or a law enforcement officer) AND they were targeted BECAUSE of their status or in connection with performing their official duties.

  I also agree that shunning itself should not be outlawed. Such a law could never be enforced anyway. However, I would support a law prohibiting any group, including any religion, from MANDATING that its followers shun certain others. I would even go further and support an official ban of any group or religion that encouraged its followers to physically harm non-members or former members. Just because an ideology masquerades as a religion doesn't give it the right to foment violence against others. They should not be allowed to hide beyond the law.

  All that said, I personally don't think that any government should give tax exemptions to ANY religion. If any religious groups claim to be a charity, their activities should be closely examined to determine whether they are actually performing charity work or not. Helping only their followers or designating any kind of proselytizing as "charity" should immediately disqualify them. The blanking Society uses every trick in the book to maintain their "charity" status when anyone who knows anything about them knows they don't do any real charity at all. Their blatant duplicity includes shuffling money around between their various organizations to hide where their money comes from, how it's distributed, and what they use it for.

  Blankety blank this forking cult!
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  Pioneering, and LDC work!

  by DwainBowman in

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  2. scandals

  my brother in law, eldub, ldc big shot, and regular pioneer.

  he's out in service twice a month for a couple hours each time.

  he get's to count his ldc time as pioneering time!!!!.

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  LDC is the acronym for Latter Day Charlatans Local Design Committee, a meaningless designation since nothing is really determined locally. All direction comes from Valhalla New York.
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  Heart warming words from my 13 year old granddaughter during our Thanksgiving dinner

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  2. friends

  we had our first family thanksgiving gathering this last thursday with our youngest sons family.

  before we started to eat we went around the table saying what we were thankful for.

  what our granddaughter had to say brought tears to our eyes.

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  Out of the mouths of babes! Wow, what a wonderful tribute!

  Wishing you all health and happiness for the holidays and the coming year. Family is everything...
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  2019--16 Leaked Videos!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  1-samuel herd-message to accounts servants.

  2-roles and responsibilities.

  3-resolutions4-collecting contributions5-contribution boxes and their uses6-balance of congregation funds7-recording bank activity8-recording the s24 to the accounts sheet9-setting up and maintaining a bank account10-balance of congregation funds11-setting up a cash box and a cash box holder12-setting up a cash agreement13-making payments with a bank account14-how to add a user to a congregation domain15-ldc update-201916-walk on your way in safety-local needshttps://we.tl/t-wuega8kvbn .

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  Thank you so much! This should make very interesting watching.

  Bottom line: Watchtower is a money grubbing, mind controlling cult! No difference at all between them and the televangelists they ridiculed and denounced just a few years ago.
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  Dr. Jekyll times 9

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  what does it look like when an “apostate” stands up at the kingdumb hall and tells it like it is?.

  watch the opening scene of the original, black and white, dr. jekyll & mr hyde 1932. it tells the whole story,,,.

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  under the radar

  Actually, there are a few examples of those who did just that.

  One particularly memorable occasion was when someone who posts here announced his disassociation and the reasons therefor at the very end of the Sunday Public Talk he had just delivered. Bravo!!!